For instance: the game doesn’t even support 3D. Competing against another Mario game on the same day couldn't have been good for its sales either. Why buy a 3ds version when I could get one on my tv with switch. Are you looking forward to the revival of the classic DS game? I did not buy this but would have bought it in a heartbeat on Switch. So many SNES VC games and ports left on the table. There's an unused item in the game named "DUMMY". The 3DS announcements made during the most recent Nintendo Direct might have been brief, but at least owners of the beloved portable system have something to look forward to in the near future. I regret buying it, and not just because I played it on DS several years ago. Take Crash Bandicoot for example, 3 games fully remade from the ground up for $40-$50cdn same with Spryo.Then look at this one and Super Luigi they are full price games that released years ago. Obligatory "if this were on the Switch" comment. Tell us in the comments. It maybe would've had better sales since most people probably don't already own the original copy of this game. After being reunited, the trio sets out to find Princess Peach. Its not a store that has these problems alot either. Should have released it for Switch with HD graphics. RPGs sell more than before but they are still far from being 100% mainstream. Had this game come out on Switch, or had the remake been one of the much-more-in-need-of-improvement Partners In Time, we'd be singing a much different tune. But i still want 3DS games. I am not sure how much of this has to do with people not being interested in 3DS and how much has to do with people not being interested in remakes of games that they have already played. It isn't the 3DS, it's the price and the fact that M&L games just don't seem too popular. @Crono1973 I mean, they're updated, but not significantly IMO. Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story + Bowser Jr.’s Journey will prove two adventures are better than one. I concede that the frame rate and a few sound effects were made less enjoyable, though. This was a B maybe C game just to fill the catalog of a console that is on its way out. Why comparing this RPG (which is a somewhat niche genre) to the most accepted and recognized platform games? So i crave for new titles om 3ds. Bowser's body is a location from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story and its remake. Following the reveal of Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr's Journey earlier this year in May, Nintendo's latest presentation has confirmed the game will arrive next year in the US on 11th January and in the UK on 25th January. I love my 3ds, but I can't buy the new Bowser's inside story because I only got the Ds version recently off eBay, and I can't justify $60 Australian for a port of a game that I already have that didn't need a port, as the 3ds already runs it ... Who decided this would be a good idea? If people aren't happy with the small changes made on the 3ds, why would you be any more satisfied with a flat out renovation? I'm sure the New 3DS could handle a slightly watered-down version of SMO, just like Captain Toad. OG PS4 is over 2x more powerful than Switch. There was a run of about 4 years where the 3DS was getting amazing games but even a series like Fire Emblem eventually did the remake thing with Echoes. @link3710 The graphics are updated on the 3DS version I'm sure. @oninowon I agree that it would have been cool for Alphadream to include the 3d feature, but they did not do it because that would have required them to restructure the game so that the inside bowser sections and overworld sections could both make use of it. Pretty much done with 3DS tbh, might play it from time to time and will probably pick up Detective Pikachu closer to when the movie comes out. 3DS consoles are slowing most of the fanbase already moved to the Switch. they are just lucky that Super Luigi sold well. It restores 60 HP for Bowser when used. Am 25. Maybe Bowser Jr just isn't as marketable is Nintendo thought. It's a very cartoony and goofy looking experience. Do These Thing... Join 1,076,821 people following Nintendo Life: © 2020 Nlife Media, partner of Gamer Network. Call me old-fashioned, but I actually prefer the 3DS to the Switch because it's more portable, has a stronger design and handled the 3D really well. You can Play the DS BiS on 3DS already, it's the 4th Mario & Luigi game with the Dream Team art style on the 3DS and released so late in the systems lifespan. The analog sticks, themselves, make it hard for anyone to just stick it in your pocket (if you can fit it in your pocket). Hold on there, you need to login to post a comment... Random: Looks Like You Have No Control Over Mario Party Dice Rolls After All, Best Of 2020: Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 10 Years Of Nintendo's Straightest, Greatest Sequel, Capcom Switch And 3DS Sale Discounts Lots Of Top Games, Up To 75% Off. I put 10ish hours into the Superstar Saga remake and it just didn't click for me. If on 3DS, I'd still probably get it because I still love the 3DS lol. I love my 3DS, it is my office console. I am a super-fan of this series and I am here to defend this game, because I genuinely believe it deserves some more love. I'm still up for buying more 3DS games (and will definitely get both of Atlus's 2019 releases this year), but the ports Nintendo is choosing to release don't appeal. Seeing as the ten year old game it was remade from is already playable on all current gen 3DS consoles, many people skipped it. Normally I would've picked up a new Mario&Luigi game day 1 but this is the second remake in a row which tells me they don't know what to do with the series anymore, especially after the horror story that was Paper Jam aka Babysit Paper Toads. This was such a weird choice to milk as a remaster, I have no idea why they did it. If the rumors are true and they do end up porting it to Switch, then yes, I will buy it again because it will be the only version that allows me to take it with me where ever I go. Apparently some music was changed, like the title screen and credits4. @Crono1973 The original Bowser's Inside Story sold like 4+ million copies on the DS. The M an L games, the "new" Kirby game, and even Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are all remakes in some way (not fresh ideas). I realize I'm in the minority for caring about this feature, but this release just seems lazy, too soon, and two dimensional (literally!). Not to mention that they should have remade Partners In Time first because that game is the sequel of Superstar Saga. Review: Aleste Collection - M2 Does It Again With This Wo... Guide: Got Yourself A New Nintendo Switch? AlphaDream will need to adapt to the Nintendo Switch or they might be finished as a developer. I don't think many people can justify the price, on a seven year old console for what is a remake. When it's a new release, they only send enough for pre orders. heck I don't even own a 3DS I only own a switch... if I had the option to buy it on the switch I would buy out the entire stock... why, because bowser jr. is my favorite character Duh, Shame really. While traveling through the Trash Pit and encountering a few hostile immune cells, he eventually stumbles into Starlow, and then Luigi. I just think it's the situation this game found itself in, is all. The results would have been the exact same, possibly even worse since PiT wasn't well received compared to other M&L games to begin with. It also released during the time of Smash and Switch sold a ton of units. Anyone who's actually played the original should know it wouldn't work on the Switch. If you've played this game you know it won't work on Switch because it needs 2 screens as well as a microphone. People that claiming that the 3DS is dying or already dead, that's only because YOU have determined it to be so. If you want it, get it! For Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "What are the Differences Between the Original and the Remake". The third game in the Mario & Luigi RPG series, released in 2009 for the … Tropes appearing in the original game: Absurdly High Level Cap: Level 99, in a game that can easily be beaten before level 40. I think this series is finished. That's surprising to say the least. I bought it, but even as someone who’s pretty obsessed with the Mario & Luigi series and has 100%ed all of them (including the extra challenges that started in Dream Team), I could not get into this remake. As a huge fan of steroscopic 3D, besides a few exceptions, I won't buy 3DS games that are 2D only. The only issue I had with DS Bowser's Inside Story was that some fights playing (Spoiler for those that haven't played the original) as Giant Bowser were kind of difficult. @TheAwesomeBowser I never put expensive electronics in my pockets (except for my phone). Discussion I was wondering how many of you played both and which one do you prefer. @MimoDX2 I hope you're right. Mario & Luigi is no Mario Kart, but those numbers are far from tiny. I didn't have a DS, so I missed Bowser's Inside Story, until I bought a launch 3DS. Bowser's Inside Story is my favourite Mario & Luigi game by a fairly wide margin, but I haven't picked it up for a couple reasons. But for whatever reason, I just didn't love Inside Story. It is easier to take my 3DS with me wherever I go than it is to take my Switch. ''Back in my days....''. I bought it as never played the original which is now pricey enough 2nd hand. To put this into perspective, other recent release New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe has already shifted an estimated 381,469 units with less time on sale. The series is getting stale. PIT sold half as many copies. Last game on 3DS I bought is Samus Returns and it will ever beIt's safe to say that nobody gives a damn about 3DS anymore, we just want news about the Switch. Enjoy! And sure, it's not just about the graphics. I mean hell look at Shadow of the Colossus. 3DS has had a great life. they will need to adapt to a new platform environment that is closer to indie PC gaming than handheld gaming.Looking at Inti Creates, they made this sort of transition quite well, they are more varied than "RPGs with sprites" with what they produce mind you. The 3DS does not need a case when on the go. The Switch with Joy-Con detached is about the same size as a new 3DS XL. With the Switch you definitely need a case, preferably a hard case. That is a huge advantage for me despite the fact that I own the original Wii steelbook version. It will be underrated forever and I SERIOUSLY hope that haters don't kill the series by not buying these games. Can't live in a card house. "The original is way better!" Developer AlphaDream has made five original Mario & Luigi games and two remakes in 16 years. However, I think that those things make it the perfect recipe for some particularly powerful nostalgia that skews people's current perceptions, because the remake is the objectively better looking of the two versions and there is no other reason to say that the original "looks better". Nintendo geeks clearly aren't picking up the slack for people like me. Nintendo is killing themselves releasing games on 3DS now. In fact, the same applies to Luigi’s mansion and Kirby’s Epic Yarn. Last 3DS game I bought was Samus Returns and the final one I'll buy seems likely to be Persona Q 2. Also, the 3DS is pretty much a dead console now on this side of the globe. It would hardly look or feel like the same BiS we all know and love. I suppose since the Paper Mario series wasn't killed off by Sticker Star, I hope this doesn't affect the M&L games negatively. And so even compared to the PS3. The game had you swap back and forth between these characters. That's not how the industry works. This is a DS remake, so it's likely that many people already own the game and have little interest in upgrading to another 2D version of it when they can simply insert the DS card in the 3DS and replay the game for free. I was pretty confused about why they made these for 3DS and not for Switch... hopefully this isn't the end of the M&L games... @Kriven You're confused why the remake for a dual screen game was made on a system with dual screens? @Dualmask Well it was either Mario Tennis or a remake of the Arcade Mario Bros Mario Clash but I think Tennis was bundled with the VB but yeah still bit surprising. @TheAwesomeBowser the Switch is just as portable as the 3DS. Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story dev on how it approached the remake, Bowser Jr.’s Journey mode, updating music, more Posted on February 24, 2019 by Brian ( @NE_Brian ) in 3DS , News In last month’s issue of Nintendo Dream , the magazine spoke with the developer of Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story + Bowser Jr.’s Journey. Picture Drawn by Typho Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story Final Boss Theme Remix Dark Bowser … The Wii is about 2 times as powerful as the 3DS. Street Fighter! @sanderev I have to dispute that the Switch is just as portable as the 3DS. Yeah, long time fans like me will still support it but it's had no exciting 'big' releases over the last year that aren't just ports or updates of older games and it's well known even to casuals that the next main Pokemon game will be on Switch. not download) for many, many more years if they keep making new ones. Sad the first comment is about the Switch in a thread for a 3DS game, hope the bold indicates it was tongue in cheek. During's today's Nintendo Direct, Nintendo announced a remake of Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story for the 3DS and 2DS family of hardware, plus a new story titled Bowser Jr.'s … 99% of my Switch playtime is in docked mode. If so, I'll probably pick it up. Like in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey has updated graphics, soundtrack, and controls, looking visually similar to Mario & Luigi: Dream Team and Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam. I love my 3DS, but I have enough new games for new consoles on my wishlist, and I feel this sentiment is felt by most of the 3DS install base now. Its true that the original has that certain charm that's been brewing for 10 years because many of us played it as young kids. That's a dumb comparison. similar to last year's Mario & luigi: Superstar saga + bowser's minions game, this new Nintendo 3DS game is a remake of a classic Mario & luigi action RPG adventure. And a lot of that is on the train, in the car, in public transit in general, at home. 99% of my Switch playtime is in handheld mode. Wow. The recent mawkish attitude towards that game is due to nostalgia as well, not that I hate PiT, I love all M&L games. Well, for me, I would’ve purchased it but...1. It was definitely one of the best M&L games and it wasn’t full price when I had it too. I also can see why people wouldn't be interested in a game available in DS and with almost no changes in 3DS. I keep thinking why? They've saturated the 3DS with M&L that a Tomato Adventure remake/remaster/localisation might have done better. Hosted by 44 Bytes. I'm sad that it decreases the chances of a PIT remake happening. What do you expect. The owner will try to get those games on 1 week so i can pick them up on the next Sunday. The biggest issue for me is the lack of creativity. But those aren't deal breakers by any means. There wen't many games on 3DS at the time, so Bowser's Inside Story was one of the very first games I played on 3DS......near launch....almost 7 years ago. No surprise here. Seriously, the 3DS' backwards compatibility is there for a reason, what were they thinking? I agree with the many that have stated that the same game can already be played on the 3DS using the DS version and a good many people still have that copy from the past. Sure, the little improvements for the 3DS version is good but if Nintendo wanted me to buy it again for the 3DS, then put that feature in. @Muddy_4_Ever Sure, there are plenty of popular titles that use "retro" graphics or detailed spritework, mostly download exclusives from indie studios though.That's sort of the position AlphaDream find themselves in now. Best Of 2020: How Do Switch eShop Discounts Impact Game Sales? No 3D and can't even run at 60 fps. If their intent was to keep the 3DS alive a bit longer then they kind of shot themselves in the foot by releasing a hybrid console. Maybe then you'll understand me. Wow. I’m in the position of having way too many games to play with even more incoming. Was planning on buying this, but you can't play it in 3D. Can't all be a gamble. I'm surprised to see a Virtual Boy game charting at all, and it apparently sold more than some 3DS games. I bought it (mainly for the Minions segment, plus I'm a bit of a collector ), but I also have the original DS version and actually played through that only a couple of years ago...on the very same New 3DS I still play on. I'm not saying the BIS remake is bad, it looks great and plays phenomenally. Alright alright, let me back up that statement. At least with Superstar Saga, it makes sense because there was no way to play GBA games on the 3DS (the ambassador program, sure, but Superstar Saga wasn't part of it). I'm going to go out on a limb and say no 3DS game is going to sell particularly well. The short video gives a quick summary of the game’s plot, which involves Bowser inhaling Mario and Luigi while a mysterious illness infects the Mushroom Kingdom. The reason for the failure can be chalked up to a dramatically short-sighted digression from the previous pattern. It was announced in a Nintendo Direct on March 8, 2018. The remake gets rid of those black outlines around everything, makes the environments more realistic and colorful, and there is now shading that adds more depth. Xbox One X is more powerful than OG PS4. I'll still pick it up eventually but not after a good price drop. Maybe I'm just getting old. My wallet has been destroyed from November onwards and I don't make very much money to begin with. I’ve never been tempted to play any of those games honestly. @Mando44646 @sanderev Try to fit a Switch in a case into your pocket. @Natzore usually I upgrade systems because I know if good enough, ports usually make their way over, but in the case of my 3DS, I kept it because of the twin screen play system, some games just can't be supported, true some did not start as 3DS games (a DS title), but I like that Nintendo will be continuing support for 3DS owners instead of just dumping it off, I proudly own both, but some people just don't have the resources to shell out $385.00+ ($300 system + $50 game + sales tax), they may have to wait many Christmases before one ends up in their stocking but keeping new games (quality, not just cheep, thrown together junk) for them coming is totally awesome. And the size of an A3 document? They activate it by hammering it, which rouses Bowser. As much as I'm not a fan of Partners in Time, they should've remade that game instead. You only have to look at the re-releases of Super Mario Bros Deluxe, Mario Kart 8, Donkey Kong Country and many more for proof of that. Back to M+L sales. They makes games, and if they want to make a long-term business out of it, they also gotta make some games that aren't expected to sell gangbusters. Remakes like this are great for whipping freshly formed teams, fledgeling leaders, and new artists and programmers into shape. despite owning the original ds game I will buy this one again for collection sake - when it's become super cheap that is. You probably don't need us to tell you that Mario games usually perform incredibly strongly in the Japanese charts, but a life-to-date sales estimate of just over 20,000 units is worryingly low for our favourite plumber. I play more 3ds than switch tbh. Remakes should never ever be full price unless they have a load of new content added. 2. Maybe now Nintendo, you can perhaps call it a day with the 3DS and go full on Switch support (And mobile)? My eb games and best buy have all told me Nintendo rarely sends stock of 3DS hardware and games. Exactly what other people have said. Originally released on the DS in 2009, Bowser’s Inside Story adds Bowser as a playable character as player’s switch between the Koopa King himself and Mario and Luigi inside him as they work together to cure the mysterious illness. As it stands, I'll stick to the DS version that still works just fine on my 3DS thanks. This game and the previous remake are hitting the younger 3DS owners at a time where they might consider letting go of Nintendo entirely. On all of them the Switch version is superior. And now look at the thought process behind this remake: Bowser's Inside Story, 2009, DSBowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey, 2019, 3DS. Take successful remakes from the past: Pokémon Gold and Silver, 2000, Game Boy - Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver, 2008, Nintendo DSSuper Mario World, 1991, Super Nintendo - Super Mario Advance 2, 2002, Game Boy AdvancePokémon Ruby and Sapphire, 2003, Game Boy Advance - Pokémon OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire, 2014, Nintendo 3DSThe Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past, 1992, Super Nintendo - The Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past + Four Swords, 2002, Game Boy Advance. For mainstream audiences, a MARIO game is a platformer one. I’ve always wanted to play this. The 3DS shelves are always bare and it doesn't seem like Nintendo is taking the thing seriously then acts shocked about sales results like these. I'm probably going to pick up a copy of the BIS remake because I'm a really big fan of this series. has been struggling to break the top 50 chart positions in recent weeks despite only launching at the very end of December. Bowser's Inside Story remake reportedly undersold like crazy. 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